Other Magaziners
The Hungarian Magaziners and their descendants listed on the
Descendant Tree and
Collateral Lines include the overwhelming
majority of Hungarian Magaziners I've found in Hungarian and American records.
There are many Magaziners of Russian or Polish ancestry in the States, but
these are the only ones that I can trace back to Hungary.
There are still a few Hungarian Magaziners that I have not yet managed to link
to the tree. Some of them are rather clearly related, even though I haven't
documented how, such as Fani Magaziner Meisels, who was
born in Humenne, whose children have some common family names, and whose
husband and son appear as witnesses at the birth or wedding of known relatives.
But even the most unlikely people seem to have some connection: I was sure that
Lujza Magaziner, wasn't related, because she lived in a
part of Hungary far from Humenne and her family did not have any of the
recurring family names, but I recently found records indicating that she was
born in Beregszasz (where Jozsef Magaziner's children were born) or Humenne.
I have listed below all of the Magaziners I have found that I have not yet been
able to connect and everything I know about them. If you know anything about
these other Magaziners, or other Magaziners who have their origins in
Austria/Hungary/Slovakia (not Russia or Poland), please
email me!
- Magaziner, Alfred (b. 08 Jan 1902 in Munich; d. 15 Dec 1993 in Vienna)
- Alfred Magaziner was an Austrian journalist and a socialist. He was born in
Munich and later lived in Vienna. He married a woman named Gertrude some time
before 1936. When things became difficult for socialists in Austria, they
moved to Yugoslavia and later to England. Alfred was sent from England to
Australia for a time as an "enemy alien" during World War II. Later he
returned to Austria. Alfred's wife Gertrude died in 1984. Alfred died in
December 1993 and is buried with Gertrude at Sievering cemetery in Vienna.
I have no record of any other Magaziners in Germany. Alfred could be
Arthur's son. Arthur married in Budapest in
1899 and had a daughter Erna in Vienna in 1903. From 1932 to 1936, an Erna
Magaziner (possibly Arthur's daughter or sister)
lived at the same address in Vienna where Alfred lived in 1925. There was also
a Martha Magaziner at that address from 1929 to 1931, possibly a sister of
Alfred and Erna. I assume they're related to each other, but I'm not sure
how or if they're connected to the Magaziner tree.
- Magaziner, Aug. (b. Abt. 1880)
- A 7-year-old Aug. Magaziner appears in the immigrant ship manifest in the
middle of our Magaziners: below Heinr. (Henry) and
Hanni (Anna) and above Wilh.
(William), Netty (Nellie)
and Zieli (Cecelia). He is a bit too young to be
Louis, and much too young to be
Anthony or Hugo, so this
does not appear to be one of Henry and Cecelia's children. This may be a
relative who was traveling with them, or it may be an unrelated child who was
mistakenly listed as a Magaziner. I have found no evidence of an Aug. Magaziner
in America.
- Magaziner, Bindfeld Ilona (b. 1897, d. 1898)
- Kozma Utcai Izraelita Temeto in Budapest records the burial of a "Magaziner
Bindfeld Ilona." There are other Magaziners buried in that cemetery, but there
are no Magaziners buried anywhere near the location of her grave. It is not
clear whose child she might be, or whether she is related. It is not even clear
what the proper form of her name should be.
- Magaziner, Carl (b. Abt. 1882)
- A 5-year-old Carl Magaziner appears in the immigrant ship manifest in the
middle of our Magaziners: below Heinr. (Henry) and
Hanni (Anna) and above Wilh.
(William), Netty (Nellie)
and Zieli (Cecelia).
He is a bit too young to be Louis, and much too young to be Anthony
or Hugo, so this does not appear to be one of Henry and Cecelia's children.
He is too young to be Adolf's son
Karl Maroti (Karoly Magaziner), who was
living in Vienna in 1890. This may be another relative who was traveling
with them, or it may be an unrelated
child who was mistakenly listed as a Magaziner. I have found no evidence of a
Carl Magaziner in America who was born before 1900.
- Magaziner, Chaje (b. abt. 1867 or abt. 1846, d. 12/1/1873)
- Chaje Magaziner died in Humenne on 12/1/1873. She appears in the Humenne
death registry, and the version I saw had photographs out of order, but her
first page seemed to connect with a second page that gave her age as 6, which
would put her birth in 1867. JewishGen recently transcribed this register, and
said that her age was 27 and she was born in Muhle Helmecz, clearly working
from a different second page. If the latter is correct, she would have been
born in 1846, making her about the right age to be the Chaje below, but that
Chaje was born in Humenne. If she is 27, Magaziner may be her married name,
but I have no information about who her spouse is and no record of a Magaziner
married to someone named Chaje. The death registry does not identify her
parents or spouse or say whether she was married, neither the death registry
I saw nor the one transcribed on JewishGen
- Magaziner, Chaje (b. 20 Mar 1844)
- The Humenne birth registry records the birth of a Chaje Magaziner. Her
father is identified only by an initial, "Magaziner L" (or possibly "Magaziner
S"). It seems unlikely that the father was
Samuel, because he had a child in November 1842
and another in 1843 or 1844. She could not be Löwi's daughter, because
his wife was much too old to be having children in 1844. I know of no other
L or S Magaziner old enough to be her father. She could be the same person
as the Chaje above.
- Magaziner, Edit (b. 1910, d. 1920)
- Kozma Utcai Izraelita Temeto in Budapest records the burial of an Edit
Magaziner. She is possibly buried with Aurel
Magaziner, son of Dr. Jozsef, though the record
is not clear: it indicates that Aurel and his wife are buried in Plot 19,
Row 21, Grave 17, while Edit is buried in Plot 19A, Row 21, Grave 17, but
Plot 19A doesn't appear on the map and may be a transcription error. Edit was
certainly the right age to be a child of Aurel (b. 1878) and his wife (b.
1881), but I have not yet found records to confirm that.
- Magaziner, Ester (bore a child around 1847)
-
Ester Magaziner is listed as the mother of the bride in an 8/17/1864 Ujhely
Hungary marriage record. Ester's husband, father of the bride, is Jakob Klein.
Their daughter, bride Johana Klein, was 17 years old at the time of the
marriage, and was born in Humenne. Given the approximate date of Johana's
birth, Ester may be a bit old to be Henry's sister, but could be an aunt or a
cousin. There is an 1851 death record for an Ester Klein which is probably her.
The woman in the death record was 40 years old, born Humenne, living on the
same street as in the death records for Löwi
and Samuel's wife Sara, at a house number
between Löwi and Sara's. If this is the right Ester Klein, then she is
the right age to be a sister of Samuel
(born 1813) and Anchell (who had a son in
1836).
Ester's daughter Johana Klein married Moritz Schon in
Sátoraljaújhely, the same town where
Emil spent his later years. Johana and
Moritz appear to have had many children over the next 25 years: records for
Luisa (b. 9/29/1865), Mali (b. 9/5/1868), Jakob (b. 8/17/1870; d. 10/25/1927
in New York), Armin (b. 8/28/1872), Samuel (b. 1/17/1875), Helen (b. 1/9/1877),
Jeremias (b. 12/27/1878; d. 6/20/1880), Szeren (b. 11/1/1880), Adolf
(b. 10/21/1882), Henrik (b. 9/29/1884), Dezso (b. 8/3/1887; d. 5/28/1888) and
Erzsebet (b. 10/3/1889) all have parents with names consistent with this
couple. The 1869 census shows Mor and Anna (Klein) Schon, probably this
couple, with two daughters, Sina and Malvina, probably the first two children
for whom there are birth records.
Moritz and Johanna's son Jakob emigrated to
the United States in 1888 or 1889, where he was a jeweler by the name of Jacob
Schoen. He married Dora Grossman and they had a daughter, Estelle (Stella)
Schoen. Jacob died in New York on October 1927.
- Magaziner, Ester (b. abt. 1835 in Humenne; d. 10/16/1883 in Humenne)
-
The Humenne registry records that an Ester Magaziner died in Humenne on
October 16 at the age of 48. JewishGen's Hungarian database indicates that
she died on October 16, 1883, and was born in Humenne, but I've seen the
original record and that interpretation is not so clear to me. There are
no column headings, and the year is not found anywhere on the page.
The registry does not provide any other information, so it is not clear who
her parents were, whether she was married, or whether Magaziner was a married
name. This could be Samuel's third wife,
Eszter Jacubovits, who died between 1869 (when she appeared in the Hungarian
census) and 1890 (when Samuel died as a widower), though the census said she
was born in Zeteny in 1830. No one else yet identified would match this Ester
Magaziner's information.
- Magaziner, Eszti (b. 1844)
- Eszti Magaziner Lange appears in the 1869 Hungarian census with Moritz
Lange (b. 1837, presumably her husband) and Hainrich Lange (b. 1869, presumably
her son). They are living in Nagy-Milhaly, located in the same Zemplen district
as Humenne and Sátoraljaújhely, and are probably connected. Eszti
is probably Samuel's daughter Eszter, who
was born in 1845, though there is no evidence of this other than the name and
approximate age.
- Magaziner, Fani (b. 1824 in Humenne; d. 5/8/1902
in Kassa)
-
Fani Magaziner was the wife of Simon Meisels and was born in Humenne in 1824,
according to the 1869 Hungarian census and her 1902 Kassa death record. The
census showed that the couple had five children: David (b. 1844), Vilmos (b. 1847),
Leo (b. 1852), Johana (b. 1855) and Lajos (b. 1862). The Leo Meisels who was a
witness to Henry and Cecelia's
wedding was probably Fani and Simon's son Leo, which suggests some connection
between these two families, as does the recurring family name "Lajos." A
Schaji Meisels, possibly Simon, was also a witness at the birth of
Ansel Weinberger, son of Rezi Magaziner.
Another Meisel (first name illegible) was a witness to the wedding of
Adolf Magaziner and Johanna Neufeld.
All of these connections strongly suggest a relationship. Fani was too
old to be a child of Samuel and
Anchell, so she is probably their
sister, Henry's aunt. Simon and Fani's son Leo married Hermina Altmann
in Kassa 12/5/1880.
- Magaziner, Hani (b. abt. 1839, m. 8/17/1858)
- Hani Magaziner, age 19, married Josef Kalman on 8/17/1858, according to the
Humenne marriage registry. Her father's name is recorded as Schändl Ziner
(though the bride's surname is listed as Magazi- ner). Hani could be a cousin
of Henry, but I have no records connecting her to the family and no other
records of any Schändl Magaziner (unless that is an alternate name for
Samuel, who fathered children born before
and after Hani).
- Magaziner, Hani (bore a child around 1860)
- In a 5/13/1884 Hungarian marriage record on JewishGen.org, "Hani Maganzoh"
is listed as the mother of bride Regina Goldstein. This is likely a misreading
of "Magaziner." The bride-daughter, Regina, was 24 years old, which fits well
with the marriage date of 8/17/1858 for Hani Magaziner and Josef Kalman
(above), but the father of the bride in this record is Mor Goldstein. These two
Hanis could be relatives named for the same common relative, or they could be
the same person, whose husband died shortly after the marriage leaving Hani to
remarry quickly to Mor Goldstein. Regina Goldstein married Emannuel Zonenschein
(or Sonnenschein), and they had four children born in Miskolc: Elza (b. 27 Dec
1886), Helena (b. 22 May 1891), Dezso (b. 16 Jul 1892, changed surname to
Spanyi in 1916), and Erno (b. 18 Aug 1893, d. 31 Dec 1893). Elza is probably
the Polacsek Lajosné Sonnenschein Elza (Elza Sonnenschein, wife of Lajos
Polacsek, 1886-1968) who is buried at the Kozma Utcai Izraelita Temeto in Budapest.
- Magasiner, Jacob (b. Abt. 1878)
- A 15-year-old Jacob Magasiner arrived in New York on the Peruvian in Nov
1893. His native country and last residence are given as Austria. I have found
no other evidence of him. The only Jacob Magaziners in America come from Russia
and Poland. There were a couple of Jakob Magaziners in the family, but none of
them are even close to this one's age. The "Magasiner" spelling is common among
Magaziners in Britain, but I haven't connected any of those Magasiners to
Austria.
- Magaziner, Joh. (b. Abt. 1881)
- A 6-year-old Joh. Magaziner appears in the immigrant ship manifest in the
middle of the Magaziner family that is the subject of this site: below Heinr.
(Henry) and Hanni (Anna) and above Wilh. (William), Netty (Nellie) and Zieli
(Cecelia). He is a bit too young to be Louis, and much too young to be Anthony
or Hugo, so this does not appear to be one of Henry and Cecelia's children.
This may be a relative who was traveling with them, or it may be an unrelated
child who was mistakenly listed as a Magaziner. I have found no evidence of a
Joh. Magaziner in America.
- Magaziner, Dr. Jona (fathered a child born 7/18/1860)
- Dtr. Jona Magaziner was the father of a child, Chana, born on 7/18/1860,
according to the Humenne birth registry. The child's mother was named Zilli.
Jona could be a brother or cousin of Henry, but there is no evidence confirming
that. I have found no other records of this person. He could possibly be the
same person as Dr. Jozsef Magaziner, but I
have no evidence of that other than the rarity of the name and the title.
Jozsef married a woman named Antonia in Budapest 8½ months before Chana
was born, so the connection seems unlikely.
- Magaziner, Lujza (bore children between 1883 and 1889)
- Hungarian birth records show a Lujza (or Luiza) Magaziner as the mother of
three children born in Szeged: Ilona Rivka Fischer (1885), Erno Fischer (1887)
and Laszlo Fischer (1889). A marriage record shows her as the mother of Geza
Fischer (1883), born in Bács-Bodrog. The father in all of these records is
Lipot Fischer. One of the birth records says that Lujza was born in Homonna
while another says she was born in Beregszasz, which suggests that she may
be Jozsef's child. Certainly, there was an unusually long gap between Jozsef's
marriage (1859) and the birth of his first child (1864), which might be
explained by Lujza.
- Magaziner, Martha (lived in Vienna 1929-1931)
-
A Martha Magaziner appears in the Vienna City Directory from 1929 to
1931 at the same address where Alfred Magaziner lived in 1925 and Erna
Magaziner lived from 1932 to 1936. I assume they're related to
each other, but I'm not sure how or if they're connected to the
Magaziner tree. The Erna at this address could be
Arthur Magaziner's daughter, who was born in
Vienna in 1903, or possibly Arthur's sister.
- Magasiner, Michael (lived in Berlin 1907-1936)
-
A Michael Magasiner appears in the Berlin City Directory from 1907 through
1936. He was described as an engineer (technik.) until 1916, andafter that
time he is described as a storekeeper (kaufm.). Only two other Magasiners
appear in that city directory in the 1900s: Dr. Matvei Magasiner, who appears
from 1935 to 1938 and a Sophie Magasiner who appears only in the 1939
directory. Matvei was born in Kiev and emigrated to the United States in 1940.
He is not connected to this tree. It is likely that Michael and Sophie are
connected to Matvei, and are also not connected to this tree.
- Magaziner, Rosa (b. Abt. 1871; d. Oct. 1888?)
- Rosa Magaziner appears in an immigrant ship's manifest from Hamburg,
Germany to New York City in October, 1888. The manifest indicates that she is a
17-year-old single woman from Ujhely in Hungary. Ujhely is an alternate name
for Sátoraljaújhely. This is probably Emil's daughter,
Ruchel, who was born in 1871 and lived in
Ujhely in 1888. Ruchel probably was not yet married to Markusz Nagy by 1888.
On the ship's manifest there are markings in a column for death in transit,
but I'm not sure that column is being used as intended.
- Magaziener, Rosa (bore a child in 1906)
- An index of the Vienna Matrikel (Jewish birth/marriage/death registry)
records the birth of an Ella Magaziener (possibly mistranscribed) to mother
Rosa in 1906, probably out of wedlock, because no father's name is recorded in
the index. The mother could be Adolf's
daughter Rosa, who lived in Vienna and would have been 40 at the time of Ella's
birth, though she apparently converted out of Judaism and her daughter's birth
shouldn't be recorded in Jewish records. It could also be the Rosa Magaziner
above, who travelled to America in 1888, though that Rosa has no known
connection to Vienna, and may have died in 1888.
- Magasiner, Sophie (lived in Berlin 1939)
-
A Sophie Magasiner appears in the Berlin City Directory in 1939.
Only two other Magasiners appear in that city directory in the 1900s:
Dr. Matvei Magasiner, who appears from 1935 to 1938 and Michael Magasiner who
appears from 1907 to 1936. Matvei was born in Kiev and emigrated to the
United States in 1940. He is not connected to this tree. It is likely that
Michael and Sophie are connected to Matvei, and are also not connected to this
tree.
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